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   ► MB LobbyCorel Paradox / ObjectPAL Coding BoardParadox Setup, Vista, etc. Topic   Print This     

RE: Paradox 11 + Window 8.1.. Tabl

RE: Paradox 11 + Window 8.1.. Tabl in Paradox Setup, Vista, etc. topic (part of our Corel Paradox / ObjectPAL Coding group).

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when you hit Table Lookup in the Restructure box for the first time in a session, it runs thru every table in the folder, to be sure it can access it.. it's possible that one of the tables in the folder is corrupt, in a manner that causes the GP fault.. and yes, it's possible that a Windows update created the problem, too..

first off, is it a small enough folder that you can run thru all the tables?

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it's been one of those weeks, for all of us.. the machines are winning (sigh)

two other suggestions, try this on a copy of your tables.. 1) kill the auto-inc, change it to a regular integer field, see what happens.. 2) rebuild with the repair tool

it's the old Sherlock Holmes "eliminate what isn't" theory

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re-reading your messages.. yes, I can see that this is all happening even when you make it all from scratch.. so yes, that points to something new and external.. it'll be a total PITA to pick a restore point and test that way, but that might be the only way to confirm it

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good luck, let us know what you find out.. the problem, these days, is that the paradox community has gotten much smaller, and the communication much more scarce..

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this thread is fine.. same topic.. if they're both the exact same build number, that should mean the exact same windows updates have been applied..

but it still doesn't tell us what's wrong (sigh)

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> does anyone know if the source code to paradox is/will be available?

nope, never

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nah.. it just means I have the power to delete stuff :-)

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thank you !!

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it can't hurt to re-install.. might not help, but that would eliminate one possibility..

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technically, an update might not over-write a bad file.. but an un-install / re-install should be a clean install, as long as the un-install deleted everything

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Jay.. Borland licensed Paradox to Corel.. Borland fully owns the rights to the BDE.. Borland fully deprecated the BDE in 2002, and Corel concurrently ceased development of Paradox.. Corel was actually in the early stages of what Paradox 10 might have been, at that point in time..

Paradox 11 is Paradox 10 with the SPs included.. and that's all it will ever be.. every Word Perfect Suite release since then, is the same thing.. any functionality differences are external, and reflect changes in interaction with Paradox, not changes to Paradox itself..

sure, Borland will sell the rights, if somebody gives them a gazillion dollars.. but it won't happen, because there is no longer a viable, fruitful market.. we are remnants, we are not a market.. it would cost millions to re-assemble a development team, re-assess the code of the BDE and Paradox, create a development plan, implement the plan, test it, market it.. "never" is the appropriate term, really

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awesome.. thanks for the info.. I'n sure there will be others who find the same good result, once they push that update !!

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I'll repeat my comments from the newsgroup, we have a different audience here

first, you should be using p11 0676, not 0411.. probably minor, if at all, but it's totally external

second, I'm not aware of it testing anything "non-paradox".. it's testing that every table is valid, every linked table is valid, and every val file is valid

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