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William Swain
Ultra Electronics
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Alexandria, VA

Does anybody have the latest scoop on the future for Paradox. We just installed version 11, which we had to contact Corel for a special upgrade license without the full word perfect suite. I've already found a bug, and am sure Corel's SP1 doesn't fix it as it wasn't listed in the fixes that SP1 covers for Paradox.

As I am in the middle of an application development, I've been looking to the forums including dbcommunity.com for tips and hints for a few sticky issues.

As I see it the submittals are getting older, most 2002 and before, and no new dialogs going on much. Is this indicative of the future to come for paradox.

Any news or pointers to active sites other than this one. No offense Mike, just looking for breadth of support and knowledge across industry to feel good that we can sustain this app for some time to come with stability. It's not good for a product when the app freezes or crashes due to a Paradox problem unrelated to one's coding efforts.

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Bill Swain

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Rick: Excellant point on the Jet engine being deprecated too. I guess both are still good tools and we'll just have to see about the future. This is an ever-changing business and one shouldn't try to second guess the future too much.

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Rick Carter
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Corel has basically admitted they're not devoting any significant resources to further development of Paradox, so the future looks bleak. OTOH, I don't know of any other database desktop product that is as powerful and versatile -- it's a shame Corel doesn't know how to market it.

As far as forums, as mentioned, the most active one is http://thedbcommunity.com/

There is one more new one at http://sundialservices.com/forum/ -- not much traffic yet.

And, on Usenet, there's comp.databases.paradox. When you have questions related to the BDE, borland.public.bde can also be a helpful forum.
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Rick Carter
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Rick you mention powerful and versatile. Is there any literature out there that compares access to paradox on a non-bias marketing basis.

Well, I don't know that I've ever seen an entirely objective article, and, when you ask any of us, of course our preferences become obvious.

Mike has an article at this site -- http://prestwood.com/community/paradox/info/PdxDevTool.html -- that covers some of the basics. Note especially his "What is ObjectPAL" paragraph, where he mentions that ObjectPAL programming is object-based and event-driven, which is not at all true of Acc*ss. You can probably find more articles by searching around this site and thedbcommunity.com.

One of the first negative arguments you may get is that the BDE has been placed in "maintenance mode" by Borland, and is not seeing further development, and that, as mentioned above, Corel is not actively doing new development of Paradox. But, in all fairness, it should also be mentioned that Microsoft's Jet engine is also deprecated, and Acc*ss as we know it today will be replaced by something quite different, apparently by some kind of scaled-down "personal" version of SQL Server. And Microsoft has a history of abandoning data access technologies, so that programs must be completely rewritten to comply with each new technology.
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William Swain
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Thanks, My company has begun to get the access-itis disease. More comfort in the validity of the data from that product versus paradox. Our senior staff have experience with one of our divisions under them that host a Paradox for Dos work stataion, and god help if the work station breaks or we loose thge corporate knowledge. On the otherhand, the mfg-repair db we use is developed using paradox 11. There some extra work to be done that I'll be getting in contact with Mr. Fought on to "harden" up the data integrity concerns. But, alas one of the senior management has recognized that Access and paradox are almost the same with their "functions.

Rick you mention powerful and versatile. Is there any literature out there that compares access to paradox on a non-bias marketing basis. My feeling is that Paradox wins hands down, but I don't code in Access either. Even if version 11 keeps us going for the next couple of years and Corel can release afew patches. I'm running ver 9 and 11 on the same machine and found that table repair hangs after posting the 100% recovered records result, then dumps you out of paradox with an exception in 11. This does not happen in version in 9. I think running the two will get us the coverage we need to keep things going till Corel decides what to do. I really don't want corporate migrating to access for imaginary concerns. Although, support is a real concern for the long term.

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If you have an existing Paradox system you can keep using it but you'll need to skip the Vista operating system and either stick with Windows XP or move to Windows 7. Because better tools exist, you may very well want to put a plan together now for converting to another development tool or at least understand what the future is likely to hold. If you're a power-user or researcher working with data, stick with Paradox.

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